O1 system prompt in n8n

[Jan_Liefooghe]

Why is it not possible possible to use o1 system prompt ? only in conversational, but this way the output is bad.

He doenst understands the context .

• **n8n version:**1.76.1
• Database (default: SQLite): dont understand
• **n8n EXECUTIONS_PROCESS setting (default: own, main):**default
• **Running n8n via (Docker, npm, n8n cloud, desktop app):**n8n cloud
• Operating system:?? windows

[n8n]

It looks like your topic is missing some important information. Could you provide the following if applicable.

• n8n version:
• Database (default: SQLite):
• n8n EXECUTIONS_PROCESS setting (default: own, main):
• Running n8n via (Docker, npm, n8n cloud, desktop app):
• Operating system:

[Jim_Le]

Hey @Jan_Liefooghe Welcome to the community!

This is an OpenAI spec change with their reasoning models. See https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/reasoning#advice-on-prompting

• Developer messages are the new system messages: Starting with o1-2024-12-17, reasoning models support developer messages rather than system messages, to align with the chain of command behavior described in the model spec.

[Jan_Liefooghe]

Hi Jim,

Thank you for the welcome. Leaning every day. Also love some of you work you allready made. Definatly on my top 10 list.

But do you mean , readin gtroughout the spec, o1 mini cn 't be selected as ad syste role? in n8n?
Even a simple model I add (excluding saying system, conversational…) with o1 is not working. Do I need to add some JSON code to make is running, like in the liks you are referring to?

Kind regads,

Jan (chemist engineer… no coder here, yet)